$99/month on a 36 month lease. My wife's boss paid the lease upfront, a

> little over $4000 out the door, and got 3 years worth of driving for
> that.

That sounds like a pretty good deal. I don't know I've ever heard
of paying the lease up front. What's the advantage of that?

The only advantage is not dealing with a monthly payment, if you can

> afford it.

I suppose that's a good idea if you are trading in a car still worth
something on a new car you are leasing. Paying 3 years worth of
payments up front though will cost you some interest on that money
if there's no discount for doing that.

Otherwise I stay close to home and walk, jog or bicycle anyplace
I have to go, usually just out for mail which is about a mile
from the house. I only put about 1000 miles a year on my car if
nothing unusual requires a longer trip.

That's a great idea. My goal is to walk more this year, I have a dog

> that gets me walking 3x/day, but he's slowing down now - it's less
> walking and more sniffing these days. I have a market a mile away, but
> there's a big hill in the middle.

Keeping active as we get older pays great benefits in the long run.
I ran into a neighbour the other day here who is in her late 70's
and she told me she walks/jogs 5 km (3 miles) every day. Like me,
her age shows most in her face but she looked to be in great shape.

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No estimate on how long the Turbos last since so few have failed.

Back in the 80s, friends with Saab Turbos swore by letting the car

> settle for 10 seconds to let the turbine slow down before turning the
> car off and depriving it of oil. Sounds like a good idea.

I've heard that too. I probably don't keep that in mind all the time
but I also am rarely in a big rush so it would be left to idle for
a while before I shut it down. I assume the turbo is spinning all
the time. Too bad it couldn't be set up to only turn on when extra
power is required, then I'd almost never use it. I drive pretty
sedately for one who was into muscle cars in my misspent youth.. B)

Okay.. I had a look online and found various info on Turbo speeds
and in general most turbos spin very slowly at low RPM's, say
1000 rpm at idle compared to up to 200,000 rpm when pushed..

But, that said, I looked it up for my specific car and it said
that the turbo does not spin at all unless you put the engine
under the stress of high acceleration or when pulling a heavy
load, which might be why the lifespan on that model is usually
quite long.

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I've heard that too. I probably don't keep that in mind all the time
but I also am rarely in a big rush so it would be left to idle for
a while before I shut it down. I assume the turbo is spinning all
the time. Too bad it couldn't be set up to only turn on when extra
power is required, then I'd almost never use it. I drive pretty
sedately for one who was into muscle cars in my misspent youth.. B)

I'm sure it's spinning at some lower-than-normal speed to minimize
turbo lag and wear and tear on the bearings from stops/starts.

I started driving in high school, spent my time reading Road & Track
and driving way too fast for conditions. Now, I'm in my 60s, I'm
driving a Lexus ES300H, a turbo semi-luxe 4-door sedan. Why does it
need a sport mode and a flappy-paddle gearbox? I'm in the same boat as
you, drive the speed limit in the slow lane and get crazy gas mileage
in return.

Driving to my office I can get 51mpg.



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I assume the turbo is spinning all
the time. Too bad it couldn't be set up to only turn on when extra
power is required, then I'd almost never use it. I drive pretty
sedately for one who was into muscle cars in my misspent youth.. B)

I'm sure it's spinning at some lower-than-normal speed to minimize

> turbo lag and wear and tear on the bearings from stops/starts.

Yes, I think most of them do that. I saw info online for some that
will spin at 1000 rpm at idle and up to 200,000 rpm under stress..

I started driving in high school, spent my time reading Road & Track

> and driving way too fast for conditions.

I got a small motorcycle at 15 so I'd be ready to go hen I turned 16.
That bike got me a job, and then I bought a 650 Triumph at 16 and
then at 17 I got my Chevelle SS. I heard later that there were bets
on the back road where I lived as to how long I'd survive before
getting into a serious accident. I'd often drive home on the flat,
decently paved 2 lane road at over 120 mph at times..

Now, I'm in my 60s, I'm

> driving a Lexus ES300H, a turbo semi-luxe 4-door sedan. Why does it
> need a sport mode and a flappy-paddle gearbox? I'm in the same boat as
> you, drive the speed limit in the slow lane and get crazy gas mileage
> in return.

Yes, my car, obviously not nearly as flashy, has a sport mode for
manual paddle shifting as well, which I haven't even tried in the
4 years I've owned the car.

Driving to my office I can get 51mpg.

Wow.. that is truly amazing. I assume you are talking US gallons
as well? I believe you're in California?

My Escape (1.5 litre Turbo) can get around 30mpg in Canadian gallons,
about 23.3 in US gallons.

Ha.. don't ask AI to figure that out. It converted my 8.1L/100km
to 50.3 MPG US which is so wrong it's a joke.. B)

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I have also suggested to people a number of times if they don't
have the cash to buy a fairly new car, to lease one and take good
care of it, and then buy it when the lease is up.

A couple of years back, there was a crazy deal on leasing Chevy Bolts -

> $99/month on a 36 month lease. My wife's boss paid the lease upfront, a
> little over $4000 out the door, and got 3 years worth of driving for
> that.

That sounds like a pretty good deal. I don't know I've ever heard
of paying the lease up front. What's the advantage of that?

The 10K miles/year lease limitation was always a problem for me,

but she lived 10 miles from work.

These days my biggest problem is not driving my car enough.
So far it hasn't caused me any problems but I usually only use
my car one day every 2 weeks for my shopping and any other
appointments. I try to keep organized.. B)

Otherwise I stay close to home and walk, jog or bicycle anyplace
I have to go, usually just out for mail which is about a mile
from the house. I only put about 1000 miles a year on my car if
nothing unusual requires a longer trip.

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Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

A couple of years back, there was a crazy deal on leasing Chevy Bolts -

> $99/month on a 36 month lease. My wife's boss paid the lease upfront, a
> little over $4000 out the door, and got 3 years worth of driving for
> that.

That sounds like a pretty good deal. I don't know I've ever heard
of paying the lease up front. What's the advantage of that?

The only advantage is not dealing with a monthly payment, if you can
afford it.

The 10K miles/year lease limitation was always a problem for me,

but she lived 10 miles from work.

These days my biggest problem is not driving my car enough.
So far it hasn't caused me any problems but I usually only use
my car one day every 2 weeks for my shopping and any other
appointments. I try to keep organized.. B)

Otherwise I stay close to home and walk, jog or bicycle anyplace
I have to go, usually just out for mail which is about a mile
from the house. I only put about 1000 miles a year on my car if
nothing unusual requires a longer trip.

That's a great idea. My goal is to walk more this year, I have a dog
that gets me walking 3x/day, but he's slowing down now - it's less
walking and more sniffing these days. I have a market a mile away, but
there's a big hill in the middle.




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